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Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:54 pm**

Anyway, I have to work through deadline and I’m not especially motivated to stay online and argue with people who intend to kill me first and question the logic of it later. My vote is staying on the duck, I’ll see y’all later if I live. If not, see you never probably.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:56 pm**

Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:53 pm
Morgan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:49 pm
Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:46 pm Why?
I almost never believe vote manipulation is a scum ability.
Why?

That’s a general vague belief and pattern I’ve come to hold after years of non-bastard mafia games. It’s held up pretty well imo but I don’t have a perfect memory of every setup I’ve played. Scum double voters are common enough as a gotcha but that’s usually where the line is drawn.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:57 pm**

But WMU or madge or whoever is right. If Jedi isn’t going to do anything then I’m not gonna defend the slot. Why bother, do what you want.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:58 pm**

Morgan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:53 pm Also none of you can mechanically put me on a scum team with Sabrar. It’s impossible.

bessie took a (joking? Couldn’t tell) crack at it saying it was compulsive and I could only send it to people of the opposite alignment (villagers, if I’m mafia). Good try, but that’s stupid and how would that ever be fair to a mafia team even if my ability has a 10% chance of killing its user?

Everyone else voting me has to be doing it for the lulz or something, and when I flip town my only question is going to be well what the fuck were you expecting.

I have enough knowledge to know if its balanceable or not and I'm voting you...

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:58 pm**

Ya, I just don't believe you there. I'm not sure where the 24 hour cut off is / how many posts I have so this will be my last post until a VC is posted.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:07 pm**

Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:58 pm Ya, I just don't believe you there. I'm not sure where the 24 hour cut off is / how many posts I have so this will be my last post until a VC is posted.

Me or morgan?

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:48 pm**

Morgan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:49 pm
Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:46 pm
Morgan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:46 pm

I didn’t have to make that connection because I agreed with Wam when he made it.
Why?
It’s not complicated.

Wam said he was waiting for a CC. I said why? There isn’t going to be a CC in role madness because roles tend to overlap and it’s a closed setup. He said oh because I don’t see scum having that kind of role or something. And then I remembered reading about Jedi’s effect on the game in the OP and realized that he was trueclaiming. I agreed (without explicitly saying so, apparently) that it was an unlikely scum role because aside from scum double voters, I almost never believe vote manipulation is a scum ability.

Then why has your push been on me all day when I have a vote manipulation ability?

Vote: Morgan

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:52 pm**

We have 3 hours and 8 mins until Eod (i found in the Sod post the timer.

Idk why, the emotion from Morgan feels genuine, is there a meta who says he is like this as scum?

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:56 pm**

MathBlade wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:48 pm
Morgan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:49 pm
Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:46 pm Why?
It’s not complicated.

Wam said he was waiting for a CC. I said why? There isn’t going to be a CC in role madness because roles tend to overlap and it’s a closed setup. He said oh because I don’t see scum having that kind of role or something. And then I remembered reading about Jedi’s effect on the game in the OP and realized that he was trueclaiming. I agreed (without explicitly saying so, apparently) that it was an unlikely scum role because aside from scum double voters, I almost never believe vote manipulation is a scum ability.
Then why has your push been on me all day when I have a vote manipulation ability?

Vote: Morgan

I must have missed your claim can you link it please?

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:22 pm**

Wam wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:56 pm
MathBlade wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:48 pm
Morgan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:49 pm

It’s not complicated.

Wam said he was waiting for a CC. I said why? There isn’t going to be a CC in role madness because roles tend to overlap and it’s a closed setup. He said oh because I don’t see scum having that kind of role or something. And then I remembered reading about Jedi’s effect on the game in the OP and realized that he was trueclaiming. I agreed (without explicitly saying so, apparently) that it was an unlikely scum role because aside from scum double voters, I almost never believe vote manipulation is a scum ability.
Then why has your push been on me all day when I have a vote manipulation ability?

Vote: Morgan
I must have missed your claim can you link it please?

Roleblocker with forced sheep ability. Came out at several points and Ducky confirmed it.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:23 pm**

Wam wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:56 pm
MathBlade wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:48 pm
Morgan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:49 pm

It’s not complicated.

Wam said he was waiting for a CC. I said why? There isn’t going to be a CC in role madness because roles tend to overlap and it’s a closed setup. He said oh because I don’t see scum having that kind of role or something. And then I remembered reading about Jedi’s effect on the game in the OP and realized that he was trueclaiming. I agreed (without explicitly saying so, apparently) that it was an unlikely scum role because aside from scum double voters, I almost never believe vote manipulation is a scum ability.
Then why has your push been on me all day when I have a vote manipulation ability?

Vote: Morgan
I must have missed your claim can you link it please?

Math claimed to have a blocking ability that depends on whether the target sheeped his vote during the day phase

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:24 pm**

Oh wait he just posted while I was writing that

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:28 pm**

I would say that's different to a vote manipulation ability.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:04 pm**

SuperJedi224 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:23 pm
Wam wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:56 pm
MathBlade wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:48 pm

Then why has your push been on me all day when I have a vote manipulation ability?

Vote: Morgan
I must have missed your claim can you link it please?
Math claimed to have a blocking ability that depends on whether the target sheeped his vote during the day phase

This is worded badly

I roleblock at night.
Next day is sheep me or you’re blocked again.
The initial roleblock is no matter who the person is voting.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:37 pm**

Oh that is different. Anyway I have put the kill in on morgan hopefully see you all day 3!

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:38 pm**

lol

Math, your ability is not proven. Jedi’s was modconfirmed in the OP.

Good luck to the sensible villagers.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:45 pm**

Morgan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:38 pm lol

Math, your ability is not proven. Jedi’s was modconfirmed in the OP.

Good luck to the sensible villagers.

Mine is confirmed by the worst. If Marklin is scum I can’t be scum with the worst unless you’re arguing four scum. It’s possible I am wrong on you but given how you’ve played I don’t think I am.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:46 pm**

I mean, Wam said he submitted the kill. I’m a villager.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:46 pm**

Also what do I care about what the worst says? He has nothing outside his push on me, which is trash.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:51 pm**

Wow, this end of day sure is different from Day 1. Where did everybody go?

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:52 pm**

A shot rings out!

Morgan has died. They were TOWN Pinball Wizard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHc7bR6y06M

Morgan

Welcome to the game!

You are TOWN Pinball Wizard.

Each Night, you may target another player to give that player a 1-shot Fiery Box item. They must use an action of that Box by the end of the following Night. That box has 3 different actions: Break, Open, and Throw (at a target). If broken, they get a 1-shot Commuter but have a 30% chance of being killed. If opened, they get a 1-shot Day Vigilante but have a 10% chance of being killed. If thrown, they prevent all actions that target would take that Night but they and that target each have a 15% chance of being killed.

You win when no threats to town remain, as long as at least one townsperson is alive.

Confirm reading and understanding this message by explaining this role here in this PM.

Day 2 ends in less than 10 minutes.

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:57 pm**

Oh dear

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:58 pm**

Also @bessie @madge as I clarified early day 2, the season (and with it my passive ability) changes every second elimination, not every second day

Unfortunately I didn't realize that until a few hours before day 2 started

Posted: **Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:00 pm**

Night 2 Start

Märklin has been eliminated. They were MAFIA Death and All His Friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvoM6TK8O6w

Marklin

Welcome to the game!

You are MAFIA Death and All His Friends.

Each Night, you may target a unique dead player. You gain a chat with them during the following Day phase. If they correctly guess your alignment, you may use their abilities during the following Night.

In addition, you share a chat and associated factional kill with your fellow Mafia team members.

You win when no threats to mafia remain or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Confirm reading and understanding this message by explaining this role here in this PM.

Night 2 starts now. Actions are due within the first 24 hours of the Night. Day 3 will start around 10 AM PST on Saturday, December 4th.

AC 2.6

Wam - 10
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - 16
the worst - 15
madge - 12
MathBlade - 13
moody7277 - 1
Seven - 18
bessie - 5
SuperJedi224 - 3

Posted: **Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:06 pm**

Day 3 Start

bessie has died. They were TOWN Anitra's Dance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcEnSITNaGM

bessie

Welcome to the game!

You are TOWN Anitra's Dance.

Each Night, you may target two other players. You learn how many other actions are targeting or targeted by one or both of them. You may guess which players (out of all players) are involved with those actions (as an overall list, not per action). Each action with at least one correct guess of involvement can be redirected if you choose. If you do, it will target the opposite one of the players you targeted. If it targets multiple players, it will replace in order from person who took the action and yourself after it has replaced up to one of your targets if able.

You win when no threats to town remain, as long as at least one townsperson is alive.

Confirm reading and understanding this message by explaining this role here in this PM.

Day 3 Starts now and will last until December 9th at 10 AM PST.

A hot wind blows... All players require one fewer vote to eliminate during this Day.

With 8 players, it takes 4 to eliminate by majority and 2 to eliminate by plurality.

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