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Seven wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:37 am Madge it's probably best if she doesn't reveal that. Also can someone vote math so I can move my vote. I need to be off wagon this time.

Why the hell are people so determined to vote the counterclaimer and cop? All anyone has said is “paranoia”

Like wtf?

And no I am a roleblocker but I am de facto cop by blocking someone. WMU’s claim is sus as hell and ar this point Madge is claiming to clear two people and WMU claiming doctor we should 100% mass claim here I think.

We can mass claim tomorrow if there is one. I think we just need to eliminate you tbh. If anyone else is scum they will be trapped with all the abilities out there.

Oh yea @Madge it's not uncommon for Traitors to appear town-aligned to investigations.

yeah i asked for clarification and i'm told that alignment and win condition "typically" correspond or some crap.

i'm biased as heck because i'm tilting hard in the neighbor chat with OMGUS but i think MB leaning so hard on being cop-adjacent is sus, scum have so many ways to interfere with a roleblocker, both with and without abilities.

a traitor won't be doing NKs though will they, and we had one last night. i think we need to find the last scum and then if the game doesn't end we work out who the traitor is

madge wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:59 am yeah i asked for clarification and i'm told that alignment and win condition "typically" correspond or some crap.

i'm biased as heck because i'm tilting hard in the neighbor chat with OMGUS but i think MB leaning so hard on being cop-adjacent is sus, scum have so many ways to interfere with a roleblocker, both with and without abilities.

a traitor won't be doing NKs though will they, and we had one last night. i think we need to find the last scum and then if the game doesn't end we work out who the traitor is

I am suggesting The Worst to be a potential Traitor. And that MB is scum. I strongly believe we need to eliminate MB regardless of The Worst/Traitor stuff. I'm just saying, I wouldn't trust him if he's trying to sway you away from voting MB.

@seven I may have missed it but why not moody?

As in why is moody not in your poe

madge wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:59 am yeah i asked for clarification and i'm told that alignment and win condition "typically" correspond or some crap.

i'm biased as heck because i'm tilting hard in the neighbor chat with OMGUS but i think MB leaning so hard on being cop-adjacent is sus, scum have so many ways to interfere with a roleblocker, both with and without abilities.

a traitor won't be doing NKs though will they, and we had one last night. i think we need to find the last scum and then if the game doesn't end we work out who the traitor is

Sorry you find logic sus.

I counterclaimed Seven.
Therefore I should be 100% lock town.

It’s yalls fault you don’t follow logic.

Logic > reads

If I block someone and there is no death then they are town barring strongman/traitor/ascetic.

That is as good as a cop check in this game imho.
Strongman only one shot if exists.
Ascetic will fail to the myriad of other checks
Traitor can’t kill.

So like this game needs a remedial mechanics lesson.

You don’t elim a counterclaimer ever. You make scum kill them.

No one has answered a plausible reason why I CC Seven as scum there. Like c’mon.yes you’ve said paranoia but think them out to their logical conclusions. If it’s I lose then it’s a bad argument. They all lose ergo paranoia bad.

There’s also no evidence of a traitor so why suggest it now?

Scum are getting curbstomped stop being stupid

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:01 am

madge wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:59 am yeah i asked for clarification and i'm told that alignment and win condition "typically" correspond or some crap.

i'm biased as heck because i'm tilting hard in the neighbor chat with OMGUS but i think MB leaning so hard on being cop-adjacent is sus, scum have so many ways to interfere with a roleblocker, both with and without abilities.

a traitor won't be doing NKs though will they, and we had one last night. i think we need to find the last scum and then if the game doesn't end we work out who the traitor is

I am suggesting The Worst to be a potential Traitor. And that MB is scum. I strongly believe we need to eliminate MB regardless of The Worst/Traitor stuff. I'm just saying, I wouldn't trust him if he's trying to sway you away from voting MB.

This is not possible.

I blocked you.

Multitasking is not in the OP. Ffs

Each phase, one factional action and one non-factional action can be taken.

Instead there’s this.

I blocked you and you’re required to sheep me. This is a personal action.

Therefore I can’t nightkill as then I would do two actions.

Ergo I am not scum.

MathBlade wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:28 am Each phase, one factional action and one non-factional action can be taken.

Instead there’s this.

I blocked you and you’re required to sheep me. This is a personal action.

Therefore I can’t nightkill as then I would do two actions.

Ergo I am not scum.

Might be being stupid but one factional one non factional allows you to night kill? I dont get the point your making.

Also where did you get the factional non factional split wording from?

Wam wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:15 am @seven I may have missed it but why not moody?

He is, I'm just not scumreading him. I am scumreading MB.

Wam wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:37 am

MathBlade wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:28 am Each phase, one factional action and one non-factional action can be taken.

Instead there’s this.

I blocked you and you’re required to sheep me. This is a personal action.

Therefore I can’t nightkill as then I would do two actions.

Ergo I am not scum.

Might be being stupid but one factional one non factional allows you to night kill? I dont get the point your making.

I did a non factional action.
Each phase a non factional and a factional action can be taken.

So then someone else has to do the NK yeah?

And it’s from the OP setup specific information

Like no matter how I slice it I am mechanically conf town six ways from Sunday

Bloody hell at this point we deserve to lose.

I am posting at 2 am trying my best here
And all it is is naked scumreads

I give up I am going to bed.

Flip me and lose

Madge WMU and wake and moody is the PoE

Good luck people

MathBlade wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:08 am I did a non factional action.
Each phase a non factional and a factional action can be taken.

So then someone else has to do the NK yeah?

So tired of stuff like this. Can we flip MB now

MathBlade wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:08 am

Wam wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:37 am

MathBlade wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:28 am Each phase, one factional action and one non-factional action can be taken.

Instead there’s this.

I blocked you and you’re required to sheep me. This is a personal action.

Therefore I can’t nightkill as then I would do two actions.

Ergo I am not scum.

Might be being stupid but one factional one non factional allows you to night kill? I dont get the point your making.

I did a non factional action.
Each phase a non factional and a factional action can be taken.

So then someone else has to do the NK yeah?

And it’s from the OP setup specific information

Like no matter how I slice it I am mechanically conf town six ways from Sunday

So your action is non factional. But surely the NK Is factional?

Sorry I'm not trying to wind you up I'm trying to get to the bottom of this as I really dont understand what your trying to say.

@seven who is your 2nd choice today if not math?

Wam wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:50 am @seven who is your 2nd choice today if not math?

No one. If Moody is scum I can find out through abilities. WMU is my strongest town read.

Will come back with my thoughts once I get an answer from math who is hopefully now asleep

I feel like mathblade is speaking a different languag and i'm ot sure if the language is "different homesites" or if the language is "scum trying to make me confused"

i'm sick of it and i'm sure some of it is because it's 35 today and it's going to be 39 on friday and it's just not getting cool in the evening anymore, but point is this game is meant to be fun and mathblade is not fun for me.

so i will grant seven's wish:

vote: mathblade

Think this L-1 please dont hammer until math has answered my question.

@wam: You remember last game when we were scum? We had the NK either of us as scum could use (factional) and I had a rolecop that I only could use (non-factional). I figure whether both can be used by the same person in the same night depends on the mod.