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Even if Seven isn't scum, based on last game I'm not sure how much to trust her opinion on stuff.

Vote: wam

@Madge: since you and bessie have wam at opposite ends of the T->S spectrum, what is she seeing that you aren't or vice versa?

The description I'd heard for janitor was "prevents flip info", which is death for town based on the one game I had been in without flips. Even it being one use I thought was too much power to be handed to scum.

How did you do the first without seeing two kinds of doctor listed? And when did you learn you could click the spoilers? For the first question, I assume you mean that all the info in the OP was copypasted from the signup thread? I mostly just got the "town picks for scum, scum picks for town&...

boomfrog ... post 11: asks me about why there are two types of docs and about vig I think I missed the point of the first question because I only knew about the regular type of doctor previously ... @moody when and how did you learn what a weak doc is? I learned of the existence of such a role at t...

Voting Moody for trying to kill my towniest town read. Transitive vote, very creative. :roll: That'd be like me scumreading people for voting/scumreading bessie. On the RB vs Jailer thing, I figure they're mostly interchangeable except RB is mainly a scum role, Jailer is mainly a town role and also...

wam wrote:Bessie mainly due to meta and her not coming across as the townies town ever.

I see wam also subscribes to my "if bessie isn't +4, she's scum" theory.

EGW wrote:8. moody: Seven, Moody

I am not voting for myself, that's fonti

You mean opposite play styles, as opposed to alignments? Opposite playstyles, yes. Specifically was referring to your views on D1. Mak's post So Mak is trying to say which town perqs he vote for as scum and the scum perqs he'd vote for after, saying the ones he'd want in that case are RB and GF. On...

PYP Fortunately for me, most of the harder players to do those types of reads with are toward the end of the alphabet, especially Seven who based on last game is inscrutable like the Sphinx and just as likely to eat you, and Swiss whose posts I may have to take in swathes. So I'm deciding to let oth...

Fred D0 post 1: intro post post 2: calls RB "dick move", votes for it anyway, also GF post 3: cites Millerizer game post 4: terminology question post 5: dismissive of the term FoS Seems to be a common sentiment post 6: shocked at power of GF, unvotes post 7: question about Janitor power, a...

fontisian D0 post 1: intro post post 2: devil's advocate about Janitor, RB+Vengeful bad, RB+RC also bad, janitor+vengeful interesting Sabrar's right, this post should have triggered me so bad post 3: worry about GoJoe post 4: Insists on thinking in pairs re scum perqs, a few more examples. post 5: f...

boomfrog D0 post 1: previous player experience post 2: typo correction post 3: addendum to post 1 post 4: addendum to post 1 post 5: wants to know what people would pick as scum, wants some players to post later post 6: mod question post 7: picks at slight difference in wam's response post 8: also w...

bessie: D0 post 1: Thinks Janitored flips would be town, short bios of the players, found my nightmare game, some extracurricular discussion post 2: disagrees with Swiss about whether D0 should have scumhunting, piqued about Swiss asking about the replacement, votes rolecop post 3: answer to BF: wou...

More time is better than less time.

Request deadline extension

Vote: makhaira

Right now they're my scummiest read, will do some detailed reads of people tonight (Swiss's posting habit is going to defy my usual method).

I used to play a lot of flip-less setups. Not knowing a flip just changes the way you have to scumhunt. Okay, so you are experienced enough with the paradigm to not dismiss giving scum Janitor out of hand. As I said, the only game I was in with it town got steamrolled, so I'm still a little twitchy...

The post where I fosed Madge was an overnight catchup post, I may have missed fonti's post voting for Janitor. Fonti's next post is him unvoting Janitor, with the reason that the first power given makes filps more important. I figured that put the issue to rest with him, although Cynical View says t...

Having more experience playing with Madge, I pay attention to her more than a newer player I'm still trying to figure out. Also, with as much hyperbole as I put down about the role, I didn't really sense there was much of a push for the role. The first post of fonti's you cite is interesting because...

JC is acting similar to what I saw him do in AI, so he leans town right now Mak looks like they're trying to get interactions going with people, but Cynical View is wondering if it's superficial stuff, lean scum bessie is looking to be in classic form right now, town Madge still has the strike again...

The way you ISO people in the thread is by using the sort by author function at the bottom of the page.

People would still probably prefer the pedaling seat to the safety exit row.

wam wrote:Vote Jc
Obvs scum.

Is this because he is taking the naive view on Seven's actions?

Swiss wrote: We’re not in RVS.

I suppose you're right that the structure of the game means that's the case, but it's such a fun part of the game as we play it here (except for bessie, who doesn't do it for bessie reasons).

I agree with bf's analysis on the vengeful, and am not going to redo his math on it. As has been said, if we vote for roleblocker now, we'll have given them the sniper to go along with the spotter. I was okay with giving scum Godfather until I had my nose rubbed in the PM that says they're more than...

I'm leaning towards the janitor for my other choice tbh. Yeah it sucks to not be sure but there's a 1/3 chance that the first mafia we kill is the janitor and it is moot. Sorry madge, but a toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll. Fos: Madge If we can find the other 2 the links should get us close to ...

Why do you think the setup options contain both doc and weak doc? Why is Vig not powerful? I don't, that is weak doctor/vigilante/masonizer. Scum might give town vig due to the consequenses of it going wrong, whereas cop and doctor don't have a downside as dire. GF being protected from Vig is a fac...