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LaserGuy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:45 am I think Seven is mechanically ruled out from being cult.

Agreed on Cult leader, but not cult specifically (could have been recruited due to the rez, although I personally think the self-rez and survivor is the likelier explanation).

I can't see how suzaku hasnt flipped if town havent? I cant see mafia having a rez feels OP to me. Survivor is probably inherent either seven or someone else. Cult have a rez also feels OP. Mafia rez or Cult rez could both be forced/not targetable at a buddy/related to their recruitment role etc et...

EBWOP: worth reiterating the tied voting rules for @LaserGuy: we still get an elimination, even in the event of a tie.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:41 am What's current VC? Am I needed here?

I think it's patzer 3, moody 2. Everything else as per last posted votals. Your vote on moody wouldn't help.

vote patzer I think this is the route. Use the day start cult number as a check and town can rez her if shes not cult. Moody I'm just not sold on, I think seven, later somi are better elims today. Hes in my "possible" bucket of reads, rather than my probable. I also think his defense was ...

@j8mbob I'm agreeing with Bessie here https://ramenchef.net/nxf/viewtopic.php?p=8512#p8512 That prompted me to take the time to re-skim bessie's comments. I see what she's saying, and I don't disagree that it's impossible, but patzer will then have to explain why she doesn't have a cop result for N...

Ninja'ed You mean you think I'd want to vote patzer the town-claimed-cop-with-no-counter-claim off at this point? No chance this game day (I might later on though). If patzer is town, then Mafia have to kill her sooner or later. The longer they leave her alive, the more chance she has of nailing one...

You mean you think I'd want to vote patzer the town-claimed-cop-with-no-counter-claim off at this point? No chance this game day (I might later on though). If patzer is town, then Mafia have to kill her sooner or later. The longer they leave her alive, the more chance she has of nailing one of them...

Apologise for not getting to this earlier. I probably would have commented last night, but I figured it was more important to update my reads of a couple of other players who were attracting flak (possibly it was, because it pushed The Snide Sniper into possible votables today). BoomFrog's case on m...

@wam, I don't know how many other players will be online between now and the deadline in just over an hour. I suspect not many at all. It may make your vote the swing vote. For reference, tied voting rules: 4. If the votals are tied, then the person who hit the tied number of votes first will be exe...

BoomFrog, I'll look at your moody case in a bit, but if you think it's better to go with Seven, I can be persuaded to switch there. More later. Going in shower.

Going to try to carry on my updated reads, as best I can and patzer's claim has thrown my expectations for this elimination. Post is moving too fast for me to keep track of things a lot, which is not helping. The Snide Sniper (previously tentatively town): Post 8: Figures that I was fishing for a re...

moody7277 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:30 pm Somewhere between 0 and -1.

So you're saying that aside from possibly Seven, the scummiest read you now have is barely below the neutral line?

--patzer claiming cop is interesting, especially as has been pointed out she's claiming it in a way that is safe for mafia. Lack of counterclaim is in her favor. There's still time for a counter-claim, given that half the players haven't seen patzer's claim yet, at a guess. --not sure how some of y...

EBWOP: Plus in that case, we'd have a confirmed scum (from one of two players, likely patzer).

@Jimbob, no town cop is a big gamble for scum patzer to pull. Somewhat: she might have thought she had no other option (I doubt it though). It could also be mafia!patzer claiming hoping to draw out the real town!cop (assuming there is one), which whislt it wouldn't save her, would at least give maf...

@Jimbob, no town cop is a big gamble for scum patzer to pull. Somewhat: she might have thought she had no other option (I doubt it though). It could also be mafia!patzer claiming hoping to draw out the real town!cop (assuming there is one), which whislt it wouldn't save her, would at least give maf...

Ok, there's no way you should be yeeted then (barring a counter claim). Unfortunately, that leads to me as the next candidate. Anything I can do to convince you guys to give me another day? If you're the Survivor, you could claim and then try to persuade us why we should leave you to later/let mafi...

Halloween 2021: If patzer is telling the truth, I think I'll be watching either her or LaserGuy tonight. Very convenient timing in that sense. Mafia are very unlikely to want to kill anybody who isn't confirmed town after all. I think it's very likely there's a cop, although not distinguishing cult ...

Unvote To prevent a risk of quick hammer (I think it's unlikely, but want to allow a chance for people to digest patzer's claim). @patzer - is that all there is to your role, or do you have other aspects you haven't claimed? No need to claim what. Ninja'ed by Seven with basically the same question,...

I doubt there is any resurrection ability other than the phoenix, but we'll see... I'm of course somewhat skeptical of your arguments but I do see your point. Will do it if others agree with you. I doubt there is any resurrection ability other than the phoenix, but we'll see... I'm of course somewh...

Ninja'ed by patzer - warning the "Quick Reply" button doesn't appear to prompt if there were ninja posts. I honestly don't know how to take a scum read on me, given how it's a complete opposite to everyone else's read of me (I think aside from themselves and Suzaku, nearly every player has...

You've got to allow time for people to discuss your claim, counter-claim, and potentially switch off or onto your wagon. When you do that may depend on your timezone. I'll be around at deadline, so can switch last minute, if needed (and I agree with your claim), but that isn't the case for other pla...

Wam wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:07 am I would claim your role if I was you, if claiming would help town.

+1.

2) I think patzer as cult leader doesn't make sense, or she's a very good actor. Cult leader!patzer seems to have way too much confusion surrounding what cult is and does (also said by Seven). I'm currently re reading and catching up but last night based on my skim reading I was wondering if patzer...