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Why do you think the setup options contain both doc and weak doc? Why is Vig not powerful? I don't, that is weak doctor/vigilante/masonizer. Scum might give town vig due to the consequenses of it going wrong, whereas cop and doctor don't have a downside as dire. GF being protected from Vig is a fac...

^^ Above post is a video titled "the lady doth protest too much, methinks". Not sure what it's from, but posting this in case it's region locked Kevin Kline in Hamlet , Act III, Scene 2. It means I have my doubts about Seven’s sincerity. I'm very confident (but never 100% sure) that Seven...

Boom what was the intent behind asking what town roles people would have assigned? Did you get what you were looking for? Yes, I got a couple town clears from it. Although one was Mak and Sabrar and Fonti have me rethinking that, but still leaning town on him so far. @Seven, swiss and fonti and any...

@EGW: Ty for the extension, and for noting it in the title, I'm on the top of page 13 and almost panicked that the deadline was tonight. I've got a few posts to throw out as I catch up, but refraining on a few since I bet they will be answered as I read.

Sorry guys I should have announced VA/LA I had larp all weekend and was mentally tired yesterday and working hard today. I'm just starting D1 content now.

I'll take a sneak peek at pings while I catch up.

PyP Aww I didn't get a chance to casually drop the line, "I'm pretty sure most of the scum are in S team." Because I wanted scum to give vengeful to someone on S team. Oh well. This is probably for the best so that bessie can start D1 strong with a weekend to analyze D0. There's a lot of g...

@wam: why godfather over roleblocker?

For those voting for the Vengeful can you explain why 1 extra mafia kill is better than the other powers? I'm just not seeing it. If the extra kill takes us from MYLO to LYLO is cost us nothing. If the extra kill gets blocked by a doc it cost us nothing. If the vengeful is the last mafioso elimed i...

For those voting for the Vengeful can you explain why 1 extra mafia kill is better than the other powers? I'm just not seeing it. If the extra kill takes us from MYLO to LYLO is cost us nothing. If the extra kill gets blocked by a doc it cost us nothing. If the vengeful is the last mafioso elimed i...

Sorry BoomFrog I missed your question yesterday because I was hurrying to get through everything and it wasn't directly directed at me. If the content level remains workable I will be able to play in my usual way of intensely contemplating every work in every post. I think what he’s asking is why d...

@Swiss: I lost the quote, but I do both links and general behavior. Obviously janitor only affects the links, but that's still easily complicates an otherwise solvable web. Each unknown alignment doubles the scenarios considered in a scum team analysis.

As for why I don't think RB is a big deal. Again, we have 3 PRs, they have 2 RB shots. So what if we're blocked a couple of times even if they do hit? I don't care so much about negating our abilities as I do granting scum abilities that negatively impact us. Like, if this was a mountainous game (a...

Swiss wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:11 am @boom you said "sorry for your loss" to madge. If game based clarify. If IRL - sorry.

Just a joke about her hating D1 and being pulled into D0.

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:44 pm Thank you @swiss for the compliment on my analytics regarding which mafia roles to vote, I spent a good chunk of a 5 minute break on it.

I agree with you about lynching scum too, and am now getting really good town vibes from you.

Just checking, this is super sarcastic right?

Finally read the setup. Y'all skipped an excellent discussion point. If you were mafia what town roles would you have given to town? Swiss, sabrar, fomti and Seven save your answers until after the others. @bessie @Madge @JC, could you respond to this if you haven't yet? Cop and Doctor. Why have yo...

Swiss wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:46 am I wait with bated breath

Huh, I always thought it was baited breath, like a bizarre monstrous ambush predator. This makes more sense.

I don’t get what’s so great about the janitor. It appears there are no indies in the game, and no town or mafia roles that don’t flip as part of an ability. If a player flips without an alignment reveal, can’t we just assume they are town? In this game Janitor can only clean someone who we yeet, it...

@Xivii We're starting with an even number of players. Baseline, we get 2.5 potential missed town sided kills this game. The 0.5 doesn't really matter except that each vig shot or successful doc save adds +0.5 to that count. A vengeful mafia that goes off and allows scum to get an extra kill (which ...

I think it's very likely we got a weak doc, and roleblocker completely destroys the confirmation side of weak doc because they are not informed of a RB. So that's out. Janitor is out. Flips are town's most potent info tool. Rolecop is meh so probably in. Vengeful or GF. If we have weak doc and vig n...

My answer depends on who the scum team are. If its a steong scum team and can generally appear town as scum I would go for the vig/mason/weak doc combination and hope the weak doc and Mason target scum and take themselves out and the vig hammwrs town. If the team is weaker and generally appears mor...

moody7277 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:40 am W. Doc/Vig/Mason sounds like scum's best choice due to excluding the most powerful choices.

Why do you think the setup options contain both doc and weak doc? Why is Vig not powerful?

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:12 am Madge replaces heuristically_alone

I'm so sorry for your loss madge, but at least this starts with power analysis.

S team can talk about other stuff. I didn't intend to murder the thread.

Pyp

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I'm sad AdumbroDeus isn't a potential player, this could have been an even more epic player list. Also sad I'm not mafia since it would be fun to show off for Adum and to dunk on Fonti.

On a different note, this is going to be a really easy game. Mak and wam are already confirmed town.

Also, sabrar, Seven, swiss, fonti no comments about people's answers yet either.

(In going to start referring to you as the S- team. Sorry Fonti, your name is Sonti now. )